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I know, I'm a little behind the times on this; what can I say? I don't get to the theater much. This one is worth a review nevertheless. Trust me on this one, I'm not going where you think I am, keep reading.

Now, I've seen plenty of scathing criticism of this film, and not just from the religious right, or even the mildly religious. Atheists, anti-religionists, and liberals have lambasted Maher for this one as well. Essentially, the gripes revolve around two points. One is Maher's selection of the craziest of the crazy and the most extreme of the extreme in order to give an extreme picture of religion. The other complaint is that Maher is overly harsh, condescending, disrespectful and flat-out insulting to the people he interviews.

I'd have to say both of these are dead on. There were time in the first hour or so that even I, being a pretty outspoken and vehement anti-religionist, found myself wincing, thinking "Woah! That was harsh!" or "Yikes! Did he just say that?" And admittedly, he does not spend time talking to moderates; his interviewees are decidedly the oddest apples in the bunch. Both of these make Religulous a bit uncomfortable to watch, though incredibly funny.

That's the thing, though. Getting laughs out of the religious loons is easy sport; were the humor the real intent of this piece, I would have to call it a cheap shot, or rather, a long series of cheap shots. Love or hate Maher himself, one must admit that's not his brand of humor. That's how you know the humor isn't the point. It's the tool.

The humor is a tool, like his rudeness is a tool, like his selection of the kookiest of the kooks is a tool, like his leaving in the snippets of him being kicked out of the Vatican, or off the Mormon Temple lawn, is a tool. The purpose to which these tools are turned is nothing less than the dismantling of religion's Get Out of Jail Free card.

Bill Maher is not poking fun at religion to get a laugh. He is not being rude to religion to get a laugh. He's forcing us to see religion for what it is - delusional, irrational. Our habit of toleration and respect for religion is so ingrained, that it takes a lot to be shaken out of it. Even (perhaps especially) for liberals, who have so long chamioned the rights of the other to be who they are, who have fought for equality of the sexes, acceptance of race, non-discrimination; we more than anyone need to be forcibly shaken out of our tendency to be tolerant, our desire to get along.

For all the humor, Maher is deadly serious, and he's not wrong. It's crucial that we do let go of our tolerance for religion; our survival as a species may depend on it. It's not easy letting go of our toys, and leaving the childhood of humanity behind us, with its invisible friends and fairy tales and happy endings. It's not easy telling ourselves, or each other, that no, Santa's not real, and neither is God, there's no happily ever after, and only we can make (or break) a better world. But, like a child allowed to keep his toys and his childhood fantasies becomes a dysfunctional monster, humanity must grow up, or we will become a monstrous race, killing and devouring with a child's heedlessness, blindness and greed. As Maher says, our abilities to pollute, to kill, and to destroy have outstripped our ability to reason and to be rational. Religion is the security blanket, the pacifier, that keeps us from moving on.

That is Maher's mission - to rid us of the security blanket. As long as we treat it with reverence, we will never let it go. Religion is a very real threat. It will remain a threat as long as societies like ours continue to allow religion a pass on behavior and thinking which we would (and do) condemn in other contexts. This is a point I have argued for years, and if *I* was taken aback at Maher's blatant disrespect, clearly, we have along way to go.

Date: May 15th, 2009 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wikkidraven.livejournal.com
*applause*

Date: May 16th, 2009 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lucretiasheart.livejournal.com
I think Maher makes excellent points for sure.

My own brand of spirituality is Gnostic Paganism-- which means essentially that I find connection to the divine through my own soul and nature (among other things-- but I'm sure you get the idea.)

I think the problem ALWAYS stems from humans trying to control one another. Religion is one method that is particularly insidious, but there are others. Unfortunately, trying to make people give up religion against their own free will is just another version of trying to control others. It's difficult to justify righting a wrong by imposing yet another wrong...

That being said, I appreciate Maher and others pointing out, over and over again, the delusions and downfalls of accepting as fact the groupings of myths, beliefs, and conjectures that make up various religions. It's literally insane. However, that form of thinking (what some call "rationalism" or "logical positivists") can also become it's own brand of religious thought: Deny everything that doesn't seem able to fit into 19th century scientific Newtonian paradigm, regardless of the evidence. (If it "can't" be-- then it must NOT be, etc.)

More on my thoughts here: http://lucretiasheart.livejournal.com/603210.html

Bill, I love ya, but...

Date: May 16th, 2009 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cernowain.livejournal.com
For as much as I enjoy Bill Maher, which is very much, I find he falls into the same trap that many religious people succmb to. And its: "If only everyone else in the world would think like me, we'd have a lot less problems."

Even without religion, we still have the kooks and the extremists. Without religion we still have UFO abductees and we still have genocidal leaders like Stalin.

The problem isn't religion, because religion (along with philosophy) is a tool that humans use to make meaning in their lives. It is a resource of symbols that help orient the psyche. What individuals and societies do with those symbols is the issue.

And I believe we need to respect people's rights in determining their own belief system and world view. Snce there are so many cultures in our world, we actually need more tolerance and patience. That doesn't mean we accept their beliefs as valid for ourselves; it simply means we respect them as people with different world views and beliefs.

I believe its OK to challenge other's beliefs respectfully; and I hope that's what Maher is calling for, rather than intolerance and bigotry-- which is the real problem, isn't it?

bb,

Cern

Re: Bill, I love ya, but...

Date: May 19th, 2009 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raven-moon.livejournal.com
He actually does discuss things like radical fascism, and outright calls them 'basically religion.' (That's from memory, I'd have to check to get you an exact quote.) But he does stress that these things, just like religion, deal in absolutes which are held as universal despite being mandated by humans. From this film, anyway, I get the impression that Maher is after the absolutism, the determinism, the literalism. Maher is after those instances where religion, or any other ideology is not used to enrich lives, but to control them.

The problem isn't intolerance, it's allowing behavior to be tolerated under the name of religion that would not be tolerated anywhere else, under any other circumstances. After all, tolerance oly works so far; when tolerance requires that intolerance be tolerated... well, that's a bit of a problem, no?

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